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Today's guest has experiences ranging from being an aerialist to a two time American Ninja Warrior competitors. She'll share insight on how to be empowered to be your best self in life and how fitness directly influences that goal. Let's welcome to the show. Eliannah Linehan.
John: Eliannah, welcome to the show. How's your week been?
Eliannah: I've had a pretty long week. I'm doing some weekend coverage for my engineering job. So I've been fitting in a lot, beautiful weather and, you know, it's it's shaping up to be a good weekend, even with work. How about you?
John: Good. Yeah, really good. I remember that we had talked briefly about both being in the engineering field officially. Right, So that's kind of a cool, common thread. Do you have to work on the weekends a lot or no.
Eliannah: Usually I get to selfishly enjoy my weekends in New Hampshire, hiking and doing all kinds of stuff. So this is a special a special occasion for me, but yeah, it's a lot to balance engineering, you know, it can be pretty demanding. I'm sure you can relate to that. Having to put out fires every once in a while.
John: Yeah, absolutely. Definitely something that I can relate to. Why don't you go ahead and give me a little bit of an intro to yourself, who you are and what you do. Then we'll get into some more of the fitness related stuff.
Eliannah: My name's Eliannah Linehan. I mostly go by Ellie. Eliannah just because everyone can find me easily on the Internet with that first name. So I tend to give people at my background. I've been kind of a fitness lover my whole life. I grew up as a gymnast, and I think that's gonna be like part of my identity forever. A lot of people who do gymnastics, you know, years beyond it. It's just something you always, you know, I could gymnastics and it's something everyone can relate to. I'm sure, like other sports are like that, too. So that was kind of my childhood. And then going into college, I went for engineering and I couldn't do gymnastics anymore. So I did a little diving, graduated from college, started in the real world, kind of certain was searching for hobbies and everything. And that's when I got into circus. So circus for many can mean a lot of things. For me I do aerials. So what you might see in Cirque du Soleil. So aerial silks, aerial rope, aerial straps and then from there I also got into hand balancing, which has some connections through gymnastics and yoga. Then it's a discipline of circus. So the circus is something like I think a lot of people can can relate to because it's like something they've always wanted to learn to do. So I have a lot of fun teaching. I've coached that quite a bit, and I performed in some shows from there. I applied for the show American Ninja Warrior. It was kind of off a whim. I saw a lot of people on this show. Like Casey Catanzaro was one of the stars of the show. Former gymnast. Now she's about my size. I'm five foot one and I was like, You know, I thought I could do that like I'm pretty fit. I have, like, kind of a similar skill set is to the people on the show and totally out of the blue. I like, got a call back that I was gonna be doing it. I was really shocked. I had so much fun. I competed in season seven and again in season eight, and I made a lot of friends through Ninja Warrior. You meet all kinds of crazy athletes. My first season I did fairly well. I want to see the third obstacle in Pittsburgh. And then my second year, I was right on the bubble for the top, the top 30 to make it to finals. But I just missed it by a hair in Philadelphia. And so Yep. So I've trained. I've trained a lot of ninja style obstacles or some ninja jams. I've coached ninja classes. I don't compete on the show anymore, but I still do like local competitions. I'm actually running one of ah, Thea mud runs tomorrow that goes on. Have you ever done like a spark in race? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ee done. Uh, well, soas faras like running. I did. Ragging are a lot. Um, I think they're not so much obstacles, but I've done a lot of those. And then I did do a warrior dash several years ago, So those are fun, and I wanted to a spartan race. Maybe, You know, I'll have to do that as a follow up to the show. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's just you know now it's just something I make sure to do, like every summer, because it's it just It's just so much fun. It's kind of like that crossover for like, everyone can be a Ninja and like I love it cause I don't I never competed to be on TV. I just really like the idea of the obstacles. So that's like it's a continued like threat in my life, but it's a lot of fun. And what if you can climb a rope? You're pretty fit than translates really well into into the obstacles. So, yeah, so I'll kind of go trump incentive present days. So now you know I still do circus, but I just Fitness is just this passion in my life is just something E just comes. I could come back to it again and again. It's just the one thing, I guess. It's just kind of who I am, part of my identity. So this past year or past couple years, I you know, I was getting really strong from doing these hobbies, and I was like, You know, I want to take it to the next level. I want to, you know, have a conditioning routine I do every day or you Not every day, but a few a few days a week. No. 45 days a week. So I added that maybe two years ago, so I was not just athletic. I was training and then I started adding weight. So I was like, in the in the actual Jim on top of that, you know, get I got married about a year ago, so that was, like, a secondary motivation just to be in my best shape. And then over this last year, I decided to go for my personal training certification because people are constantly asking me, you know, how doe I get strong like you. How do I do the things you do? How are you able to do Well, you know how able to physically do this, Can you give me conditioning tips? And I want to help people and share the things that I, you know, really excite me and I just wanted to do and it really honest, like a non this way with integrity, not just give out, you know, random advice. So that's what that's why I did it. And so did that in this spring. And now, after I got my certification, I'm gonna catch you up. Just today I decided I wanted to kind of go through my own personal transformation so I could relate more to people whom I asked me for help because I've been fairly lucky. I haven't really needed to make drastic changes just to be healthy. So I decided to do a bodybuilding competition. I guess me views, like three months ago now and starting to work with the coach and religious dialing in my nutrition and my workout plan with the coach. So I could kind of experience what it's like to change my habits and and see changes to my body so I could kind of help from a first hand experience. And I think if you're gonna be a coach, I think you know, I wouldn't trust the coach that wouldn't work with coach themselves, right? Right. It's like, Well, you know, is it really? I think everyone should have a coach. Not even if you are a coach, you should have a coach. So that's kind of my most recent endeavors. Is that competition? And I'm doing that in about two weeks. So That's the really long, really long version of everything. That's e I mean, that's that is wonderful. So you covered everything. We can end the show. Not right. I know. I was like, Oh, I should give bullet points and then I just Yeah, no, that's actually perfect, because there are a couple of questions that I actually thought of as you're going through those so I might have misunderstood this. But you said you don't compete so much in American Ninja Warrior now, But I think you said something about Ninja Jams. Did I get I? I don't think it's the word jams, but, um So review said events. Maybe I just missed you. Yeah. So there's local. There's, um this is a total like nerd nerd scene, but there's organizations that you can compete in. The one I compete in is the n N L. The National Ninja League. So they have competitions at Jim's, which are very getting really popular. There's, like three within 20 minutes of my house, and I live in New Hampshire, you know, it's not like a big city kind of area, so you can qualify for nationals in this league, and I've done that for the last three years. I think I was like, top six or top 10 this year in Hartford. So it's It's a way to compete like it's for. You don't have to necessarily have a Hollywood story to to do it like you do on ah, NBC. You have to be casted for that. It's not just skills, so it's It's a fun way to stay involved in Not necessarily, you know, be on television or anything, but you get to compete in. It's a lot of fun. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I had to ask because I didn't know if it was like, not an industry, anything but like, yeah, just some jargon That was like I was unaware of. But that's really cool. So it kind of sense to me I've seen events like that. For example, there's a on Expo here in Phoenix. I want to say it's like the second week in August. It's called the Europa Fit Expo. It was very simple Little L A Fit Expo or the Olympia or the Arnold in Ohio, but they have events there, and I think those are actually events where you can qualify to be able to go on to American Ninja Warrior. I think they've got some CrossFit events there, too. Yeah, it's there. It's like getting really popular. People are. I don't know how realistic it is to be an Olympics sport, but it certainly is getting a lot of attention and a lot more people involved. So it's It's fun. I think everyone, everyone should get out there and try it once because I think everyone watches the show and they're like, Yeah, I could do that So, you know, Go go and see. It's It's a lot of fun. Yeah, that And that's something to really say. You know? You think everybody should try it, right? Well, I for one, have not. I would be interested, right? So is it It's that I can't get that were so like for me. I've been doing body building essentially my whole life, and I've done some running. But it's just not something that I've been as passionate about. Yeah, I wouldn't want to get started right in working towards, you know, American one Ninja warrior type event too, right? Maybe like something in a local gym. What would kind of be the first thing you'd say that someone like myself would need to go and try this first train. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I'll tell you. When I when I started, it was season seven, and it was all right. I mean, it was established, but it was not. It was right after it kind of got really popular. Um, and there weren't ninja gyms. They're really there. Weren't many. So the best way to start is to rock climb. I I used to be a really avid rock climber. Now I go, It's It's not my main focus right now, But rock climbing is a really great way to build, um, strength for American Ninja Warrior, cause there's most of it. You're hanging and swinging and it's just body weight. You need to be able like strength of body weight ratio is really the huge, huge component of it. Calisthenics? Yeah, exactly. So that's why you know, there's like, almost a formula for, like, people who do well, not There's exceptions like you'll see, you're like in a NASCAR driver and like that, doesn't it? But a lot of people there rock climbers, um, park or athletes, gymnast, pole vaulters and Yeah, so those, like the big the big one. So I think I think Rocklin was the best way to get started and then, you know, really just getting in a gym because there's certain things you're only going to get good at by drying like the Warped Wall is a good like, there's no other time in life where you're sprinting up a wall. Really? Maybe movie Parker, but yeah, So I think rock climbing is a great way to get started. That's so that's really cool, because I used to do that. Some my brother was more than I and I was. But there was a gym back when I was, I think, like 16 or 17 I'd go and there was, Ah, it was a mountainside that it actually had a rock wall in there that would auto belay you. And I would basically do that for my workout, just climbing until I couldn't. That's that's an interesting connection. Now, I just realized that you said ninja gyms earlier, not injured jams. Oh, yeah, it's fun, but I don't know what you mean. Yeah, when I figured, maybe that's just what they call it, right? No. Yeah, there. It's wild like I can't believe that there's as money. You know, there's enough people wanting to do it that there's there's so many now because we remember when we used to drive. My husband used to train with me a lot for the ninja stuff, and we would drive like, an hour and 1/2 on a Saturday night. And that was like, the only place to go. Um, but now, yeah, there's, like, three of my town. I'll have to look up some local ones because I know this is the first time I've heard of it. I used to work with the guy. I think his goal was either to be on it or maybe his his fiancee's goal or something. What? We talked about it at one wait. Um, but yeah, I hadn't. I went rock climbing with him once, right? But we just got a ninja gyms. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, into the bucket list. Yeah, e Just start that right. Uh, you got a pretty good one going with all the things that you've got. Yeah. Yeah, I like I took a lot of on my bucket list. I have e I think that's yeah. Just checking them off one by one. Yeah, that's well, that's Ah. So actually, while we're on that right, So you're you're competing this this bodybuilding competition, right? And I'm imagining that. Well, I guess I should ask, What level is that? Is that like a figure bikini, Which s O I I did not know what I should do when I started, which is one of the reasons why I, um, got in contact with the coach. Um, I work with a woman from team vestment body named Jules and she, you know, we talked a lot because I'm so developed in my upper body from doing so many intensive things, like like ninja and aerials and handstands. So I've really big shoulders, and I have a love hate thing with it. So we decided on bikini just cause I'm still relatively small overall, and that's something I learned a lot about just talking to her and and going to watch shows there's different categories. So you can have yet to pick the one that kind of suits your body type. So that's what I'm doing. We'll see how it goes, right? Yeah. And that's why I asked you because usually there's there's a progression that's and now I'm a totally screw this up for what most people definition is but basically bikini figure physique and then bodybuilding. Each one essentially goes up in musculature, that there's different routines or types of, you know, apparel for each one. But that's kind of the progression that I see it as so that I think became makes sense for most people who are starting. They've already been doing that specific sport for Oh, yeah, yeah, and and because, you know, preparing for this show has really helped me, like, balance out, you know, more, getting more strength in my lower body, which is one of my goals kind of in the beginning of the year was just gets stronger legs because it's like, you know, I work so hard in my upper body and I want to be, you know, strong. I want to be balanced, uniquely fit, kind of overall. So, um, it's it's kind of been helpful, too, to have a routine where I'm doing, actually hitting every muscle group every week s o. So you bring that up? Have you looked a lot into the end of the ideology behind CrossFit and what its whole fitness thought processes I've done. CrossFit I did for a month once. I can't say that I'm really an expert. I know. They focus on functional fitness. I don't know if you have more to say about it. I'm not striking. Elaborate? No, you're fine. Does not bring it up. I don't really use CrossFit is my training technique or method? I mostly do weight lifting, conditioning, that kind of stuff. But I did talk to a guy about seven or eight months ago when we started going to the gym and we would occasionally do a crossfit workout that he would have the workout of the day. And it was interesting. He had me sign up for this website called Beyond the Whiteboard. And you've heard of that before? You know, one of my good friends does it. So I've heard some of these terms. I drive dropping on her classes. Like when I visit Philadelphia every few months. But I'm still listening. I'm not going to jump in. Yeah, no, you're You're fine. So beyond the white board, right? I go on there, I create my account and I'm kind of curious. It talks about how it gives you basically a fitness score based off of the different accomplishments that you have right, and it takes each work out, whether it's a certain amount that you're lifting or a certain speed, that you're doing things and it's all about our output. But ultimately it talks about you said Functional Fitness, being all around balanced in everything you do. So I could even we compare myself to this other guy who was more speed based, where I was more strength based, and our fitness scores could essentially be closer because it takes everything into account, really tells you have balanced. You are. So that's what that made me think of when you brought that. Yeah, wanted to balance upper and lower body strength and being equally fit, kind all around. Yeah, yeah, I think it's It's, I mean when I feel like when you you kind of I mean not a peek, But I feel like I've gotten really strong when I over body and it's like, Well, you know, I I where can I work? And I do more work to be kind of better overall and it's I like finding those opportunities. You know whether it's movie adding more flexibility, um, to my routine or, you know, just looking for ways to constantly improve. I think I think fitness is dynamic and it's one of the fun. Things is kind of shifting, shifting those goals and and, um, focusing on different things. Strategy. A lot of people use kind of going through phases of fitness where they're building strength, you know, building stability, leaning out, building muscles. So right. And it's all it's kind of about those cycles, right? And I like how you gonna do that hand balancing that you have within your kind of repertoire of experience. And that kind of is an analogy for all of fitness in general, like even myself, who doesn't have the sort of American Ninja Warrior aspect or hand balancing aerialist that, honestly, aerialist sounds really far out of my realm of possibility at this moment. Never say never, ever, ever, right, even with me, right where I'm trying to either increase muscle mass, decrease fat, transform my body in certain ways. It's all about balance and trying to work through each of those phases. So it's Yeah, I really like that message. Yeah, Yeah, and it's it's ever was really cool. I think when you you know, you've been building for a while, Maybe. You know, for me, it's not like drastic but building strength and then, you know, adding a lot of more cardio getting leaner, like I find I'm able to do skills that I wasn't able to do before because now I have kind of that same amount of muscle, but a little less mass to move around. So so it can kind of unlock like certain plateaus going through those faces. So the word comes to mind. Circumstantial plateaus, so to speak, is almost like self inflicted, right? Because people say, Oh, I can't I can't lose more weight or I can't get stronger Right? But you're kind of putting that limit on yourself where if you just kind of take a step back and re program, then you can push through that. It's just that your body has to go through that Evan flow. Yeah, yeah, it's like almost approaching it from a different angle like, Well, I've been kind of grunt like pushing this immovable wall for the last six months. Maybe I should try a different strategy and see how my body reacts to it. Um, because, yeah, I think that would be really frustrated if and I I have this theory. It's, you know, I say it a lot when I teach handstands. It should feel hard, but not impossible. If it feels impossible, then you're probably doing it wrong. Um, and I say that you know it because you should struggle. But, you know, if the struggles to great, then like, you know, we need to use different tools, um, or maybe, like progress it down so you can actually do it. And that just generic advice heart difficult, but not impossible. Is Is the wreck level challenge in my mind? Yeah. No, that makes sense to even from a safety entry standpoint, I'm not going to go try and lift, you know, 607 Â£100 on a bench press if I'm only doing, you know, one or 200 a day before, it's not right. Not realistic. So I have to ask. And I was gonna ask who kind of like inspired you with the whole American Ninja Warrior aspect of done. But you already had mentioned Casey Casey scans are Oh, yeah, she I think so many people. So many women applied to that show after they saw her run. I think it was, Ah, I want to say it was 20 14 that she finished city finals. It was so inspired. I think it's just like people suddenly had this limitation. Just kind of like erased like, Well, you know, not only she woman. She's feisty, tall, You know, she's She's not an intimidating human being, I guess, Um, and to see her do it, so many women I know that started that season who are now very famous on the show. They're inspired by her cause it just broke this glass ceiling of what's possible. Um, and you know, all these people couldn't have done it before they saw her do it. But just seeing someone do it made it seem possible for so many people. So there's a lot of there's so many strong women on the show now it's it's it's incredible, and they they could be with the men. They're like on the same. A lot of them are the same thing. Seymour better than the guys. So, yeah, that's really cool heights. It's almost that's a very psychological aspect to it. Is there something about the world record for, like the 100 meter dash or something like that was above a certain time for a very long time? And then finally someone broke it, and then the record just kept getting broken and broken because people could see that it could be done. And then more people try it right, and they, like you, said so many people could have done it before, but they didn't really see it right, so they couldn't really believe that they could do it until they saw someone else overcome that, right? It's almost like they gave themselves permission. They're like, Yeah, I can I can believe in myself now e. I know it's possible, which is It's awesome. Yeah, she's an inspiration. She's Yeah, she's doing all kinds of different stuff now. She's a wrestler now, so it's very cool. There's there's a lotta, inspiring people out there, so I know a lot. A lot of young girls are very. They're inspired by the show and I see them competing. I I spent six months winter coaching, Ah, kids ninja class, just kind of just for fun. And it was It was great. You know, I I love seeing the little little kids. Little girls. Little boys kind of go from the very first ninja class Thio. You know, six months later, they're doing all the obstacles and telling me how they're like, This is how you should do it, giving me advice like I'll take it. I'm listening. Sure. I love it. So that and that's cool. That's really I didn't I didn't know that. We haven't talked about that before with Yeah, it was Yeah, Yeah, I thought, you know, volunteering. It's I try to make it part of my life. Um, you know, it's sometimes it comes in waves. You know, I've done Ah, I think it's an important aspect to give back and do some service. And so, with those with the kids classes, I'm picturing just everything scaled down is a kind of the same obstacles. Er it is. It's like many, um, everything is a little bit smaller, but some of these kids will like that. They're just built for it because they're they're, um they're fearless, and then their body strength to weight ratio is just perfect for, uh, just hanging and swinging. Like I've seen some incredible things. Like I seen, I think, a four year old just kind of hanging from one arm on a on like a ring. I was like your four. Like, how is that physically possible? Remember their five. But, you know, it's a These kids were strong and fearless, and I love seeing kids get into sports early cause, like, I guess that was a gymnast. And I think you just you're so much more. You don't have those little feet. You're confident when your kid and and doing those things young when you're older, like it won't seem like a big deal, you won't be intimidated by them. So I think I think sport kids get into some sports. Young is really beneficial for their their confidence overall. Yeah, I definitely agree with that and talking about fitness impacting their confidence, right? What? What would say? Some of the would you say the major benefits, I guess that you've seen in your life that fitness has brought to you outside of your actual fitness progression. Oh, yeah, I You know, I've been thinking a lot about this recently because, um, you know, I've always been active, but over the last three months, I've had this really exact routine, and I it's and I've been tracking kind of everything. So it's really easy to Coralie the effects on my life from the effects of my fitness because I know exactly what everything is. And, you know, I just find that when you when your physical self, when you're taking care of your physical body, um, you have more energy. Well, this is all say I I have more energy. Um, I have this just more confidence. No, I I don't even know the reason. It's just just more confidence because I know I feel good about like the physical state that I'm in. I have more creative energy. Strangely, even though I'm spending more time in the gym, I'm able to accomplish so much more because I have so much more energy to pour out to everybody else and all like the work that I do for me, it's like a multiplication factor of what I'm able to help If I put my I'm sorry with the energy, and it's like almost like I get a multiple out. It's not like taking away from from sort of everything I'm able to do in a day. So I just noticed that, you know, at work, I just accomplishing more. I'm more focused. So that's a lot. It's a long list, but I just think I think, you know, starting with your physical, the state of your physical self, you're going to see benefits in your mind and in your spirit, kind of as it like a pyramid, almost like building on top of itself. So, yeah, I think there's, I think there's some science behind that, and again, I don't know too much about it and and and I'll ask you a little bit more about this later. But the actual science behind what your body experiences through physical output, it has to do with your your endorphins and certain chemicals in your body, right? And so when people I think they even prescribe activity as kind of, ah, aid for depression because it helps kind of alleviate, I don't want to butcher it right, but there's a tie there, but I've seen this. I've seen this diagram before, talking about all the the chemicals in your brain, the positive effects from exercise. I'd love to find that diagram team right now, but yeah, I think definitely the endorphin. Just for exercise. You leave a run. We believe the gym in a better mood, which is a much better way to start. Start the day, right. But then also, there's, you know, from being around other people, you get the sense of belonging in a sense of community, which has a lot of positive effects on mental health. In general, I think that's a huge part, um, of of fitness or people, cause I think for a lot of us, it's part of our identity. And we also have a strong community amongst the people that we, uh do you are fitness with Whether that's our yoga class are lifting partners or, you know, our soccer team. Whatever it is, I think you're right. And I think that Graff would be a really good thing to find. And maybe I can kind of post that, but yeah, but no one that I saw was kind of just compared, um, people just emotional sense of well being before, you know, whether it was the gym or yoga versus after. All right, and it's in all areas. They tend to be happier, feel better, which, you know, makes sense apart from maybe wanting to die because of what you just put yourself through. But, uh, is the relief that laughter You just lie on the ground? Yeah. You feel good, right? When I was wearing and I don't go to the gym, I feel terrible. And then I go at lunch or whatever, and it's fine. But when I go in the morning, it kind of sets up my whole day for rain. Better. So I gotta ask which he said not too long ago that you got your certification for training, right? Yeah, I went through, um, Nazem. Okay. Yeah. So, um, they're, uh I'll ask What? What are you certified through? Um, an organization. So I am actually certified? Yes. Um, I think I'm gonna let it lapse here in the next couple of months because I really don't train people. I only got my certification because I wanted to experience it, and I wanted to kind of just challenge myself in another way, but it's through a non accredited organization. I don't even know for learning. Yeah, I totally get it. And, you know, one of the reasons I got the certification was because realistically, I think it's a way to commit yourself to learning all the components because, you know, you know, this is my test date, so I'm going to read this book, you know, cover to cover, make my no cards take the quiz, isn't really learn it. I think you know, you could have the book on your shelf and say, Yeah, well, definitely learned that someday. But I think I think having a date on the calendar, a test. Ah, you know, maybe it's a five. Kate, you know, it gives you motivation to actually do the things you say you're going to do. So I can definitely really to that. But yeah, I did. I did like the O P. T model that Nazem top, because they really the one thing I really agree with is that everything should really start with that stability phase building, um, neuro muscular efficiency. Because I think the way people move is has a huge effect on the results they get because they you see people and they're like, Well, I'm lifting, but you know, nothing's happening and it's like, Well, if you left, but you're not really, you know, making a mind body connection and moving correctly. You could do it all day and you're not going to see the results that somebody who's doing everything with proper form is going to see. That's a very very point it makes me think of, Ah, a couple of things. One is Jeff Nippert is a guy on YouTube who scientifically presents all of his information, and he bases everything off of science and his He recommends a subscription to this monthly online magazine called Mass. And it's all about science based information. They basically take articles about it Is that you get m A S s, um I think it's like monthly applied sports science or something. I should look it up because then I don't sound like you said being from the Northeast. Oh, right, yeah. So there's It's a monthly applications and strength sport. Really cool. I subscribe to that and really, just because I want to learn more, right? And just like the training he wanted to challenge yourself. Yeah, I've honestly been looking for something like that, so I'm definitely gonna check it out because, like I've been looking for, like, scientific articles, not be stupid wealth, like a million, Like Buzzfeed Not to say they don't, Some of them are, you know, informative, I guess. But, you know, I've been looking to read more scientific journals because, you know, you want the real information and not that, you know, 10 10 ways, toe, You know, six weeks? Yeah, in six weeks. Or, like, you know, work out like this celebrity, and yes. Oh, that's awesome. I'm definitely gonna check that out. Yeah, I would check it out. And then just for everybody listening, I'll put the link in the show. Notes. I'm not AA affiliate or anything, but I will go and put that there. It's really cool. I want to say it's, like, 25 or 30 bucks a month. And like, this last issue came out. Volume three, issue seven. And it's about 77 pages. This last one and they go through, at least, you know, 5 to 10 articles. So, um, that's really cool. I think you might like that, cause something you really have kind of touched on is that you want to be able to from what I understand. Really understand the content you're giving people, right? So somebody asks you How do you You run faster. Like, how did you accomplish being able to complete that, right. You want to be able to really tell somebody and not just tell them you lesson move more, right, Right. Yeah. And it's like, in some ways, a lot. Some of my earlier. So, you know, I had coaches, and and I also I'm a little bit lucky, so, you know, finding out Like what? What about what I was doing was actually moving the needle. Um, And what lessons should I pass on to people for me, like one of the biggest game changers is learning about nutrition. Because if your athletic like you're you know, you're just gonna enjoy moving and you're gonna it's not That's not the hard part. I think I think nutrition is really what takes it over the top for people who just, you know, if they like to move, I think learning a little bit more about nutrition can really turn. Really Take them to the next level. Yeah, I agree with that in, like, come back to that balance aspect of fitness, right where it's you may focus on one thing, but you may reach a sort of self imposed plateau. If you try something else, you can push yourself in that direction, right? And then come back and see something different. Once you get back to what you were used to like. I would be really interested to see when you go and compete, you know, in this next show or maybe even one after that. If you choose to keep doing it, What, you're what the impact would be on your hand balancing right or you're Yes, I've already noticed. So I I I still trained those things not as not as many days a week, just because the number of workouts and doing But I've already noticed in effect on that because I'm a little bit a little bit lighter. Um, and I've been doing, um just a really systematic lifting routine where I'm hitting all my muscle groups. I'm doing a lot of good shoulder exercises and, like I've already noticed, ah, lot more stability in my shoulders. And just I think being slightly slightly leaner has helped me unlock some things that I couldn't do before. Um, so I heard you notice that which is cool, because it wasn't my intention for this to make me a better Hamilton, sir, but we're a better aerialist, but it's it's kind of an unintended side effect of taking a different approach. So so that's been really cool for me and and then, just like the consistent cardio I think no one likes. Well, a lot of you'll don't like cardio, but I think just adding consistent cardio can can improve a lot of things for people. And I've seen some of that just a little more Endurance is is always nice, right? And I agree with that. It's interesting that you mentioned you have more strengthen your shoulders and you being slightly leaner has had some effects on that to you. It would be interested. So how was your flexibility? Did you notice any change in that when you went over the lifting? I think I do need to stretch like, a little bit more just cause, um when you But I've been pretty smart about, like stretching when I left because I already know kind of the effects of of doing a lot of strengthening exercises and not stretching because I've had really tight shoulders, um, in the past, from from doing like a lot of climbing and pulling and not opening my shoulders. So so yeah, definitely, like doing a bunch of like exercises and then having like, tight, tight hamstrings, that's that's a real thing. Um, so I tried to stretch a little before and then stretch after when I lived just because it's important to me that I'm not that I'm still very mobile, so I can do the things I enjoy that I couldn't have said it better that it's really it's really true when it comes down to it, like for me. I know that I don't have as much flexibility as I would like right and so I do a lot of weight lifting. I used to do yoga many years ago and I should get more of the practice of doing that or at least like you said stretching before and after. But I know that if I go in start implementing that flexibility training, then it'll have positive effects on my weight lifting. It's just a matter of putting the time into to do that right, so tying that back into kind of life in general with having to I have certain fitness aspects that can complement what you're currently working on. How do you How do you recommend someone that has so many things going on with life, whether it's work or recently getting married? I know you were married about a year ago. Yeah. How do you keep your fitness progress on track while having all this whirlwind of life changes coming around? Yeah. Um, well say, I think all fitness schools should come from a place where your intrinsically motivated. I think it's different for each person for me, like I like to have something on the calendar and it changes, you know, in phases of my life. It's not always and I love the freedom to kind of make thes pivots toe what? Like what's most exciting for me. So, you know, right now I have a competition in two weeks, so that's on the calendar. I'll have a circus performance, you know, sometimes on the calendar. And that's and that's a motivating me toe. Get out there in train. I think for some people that you know, if you're not motivated by sort of like a race or a competition or a performance. Maybe it's just you want to commit to a daily or weekly practice, and that's something you check off the box, like on your calendar. But I think I think you start with something that's intrinsically motivating. You know where it's something you physically want to be able to d'oh. And there's some time component to it, whether it's like you want an unbroken chain of I went to yoga every day or, you know, every week or like I have a five K in three weeks. And then from there, I think balancing it with life, I think you need to have it. So either you know, you wake up and do it, Um, in the morning, I love working out. I love doing lifting or conditioning in the morning or like your class. You're booked in a class right after work, and that's where you're headed. Um, and you don't let yourself, you know, go home and sit on the couch in between. I think it's, I think, that prioritizing it on your calendar. So it's This is what you're doing at this time versus getting to it when you get to it, I think I think that's how you make it happen. You know, make sure it's motivating and make sure it's blocked off in your calendar. And then, you know, when life gets in the way, like you travel for work like you just forgive yourself, you know? You know, I was, And I think, you know, don't let that derail you just jump right in where you left off and, um and yeah, that's that's that's my approach. That's really, really cool with the whole Don't derail yourself, right? Would you forgive yourself when you when you miss it? Because you can book it in the calendar, book a class, right? But things happen. And I found that personally to happen that if I miss a day and I get down on myself about it impacts my ability to meet those goals the rest of the week s Oh, that's really key. And I think that positivity has a lot to do with where people can really take that, you know, in intrinsic motivation and convert that into, you know, this is something that I'm going to do. If I fail, it's okay. I'll forgive myself and not forget it right now. Continue to do that. Yeah, I love this phrase. Like I do yoga. I try to do it, you know, weekly will be great, but like, you know, bi weekly just really for the mental aspect to the meditative aspect and something that I've heard in classes is like Do what serves you. And if you make that decision maybe like you didn't sleep last night like your your child kept you up all night. You have a crazy deadline. Like, maybe what serves you most is not going to the gym today and adding, like physical stress to your emotional stress. And I think, you know, recognizing that you made the best decision you could for yourself and then just turning the page to a fresh day, it's It's fine, you know, I think that's key. That the whole it's fine, right? It's people get down on themselves when they say, you know, I cheated. I had a lot of food or, you know, I didn't make it today because of this. In the end, you, for every little bit of activity that you do is gonna help you live longer and we see it one day at the gym isn't going to be drastic, right? I mean, unless you're, you know, 234 weeks out from a competition and every little bit counts. I mean, even then it's not as drastic, right? But, I mean, I just think that it's fine, right? If you miss it, it's okay. You just have to keep going. So what would be with all these different things that you've done from being an aerialist to hand balancing an American ninja warrior and now competing in a competition? What would be something that you would say kind of ties all those things together in sort of like a contiguous, you know, grouping of activities. Yeah, I think the theme for me, I think I've just I've always liked being the strongest that I could be. So that's the theme with all of these is just kind of pursuing that physical strength and physical challenge. Um, I I like to push boundaries. Um, and I like the idea of doing something that, like no one's been able to do before. So I'd like to be kind of on that inventive front. And, you know, I like to think that I'm kind of on that boundary of, you know what's what's possible and what's not yet possible. Yeah, I guess that the thing, The story that I kind of tell myself I've heard before. You know, if you look back at your childhood and you remember the first time you felt powerful, um, that's supposed to be like one of your purpose is in life. Very, very, um, very deep. And so mind like mine is kind of silly and maybe almost too literal. But when I was in, I think I was in second grade. Me hasn't start May 4th grade. I set like the pull up record in my elementary school for, like, girls and boys. And I didn't I didn't realize I was that strong. And then that, like the whole gym class, is kind of like, wow, like, that was crazy. And I was like, Oh, wow, Look, I can do this. So I think, you know, that's always been like empowering for me and just like one of my gifts. And I love to kind of push that and then also, you know, share share that with other people who are excited about it and just kind of pushing, pushing boundaries and seeing you know how far we can take different things in different sports. But that's a really interesting correlation. I honestly can't say that I've had an experience that I can remember. That's ah, you know, back from when I was younger, with fitness, but being able to set that record and having people support you. And then you kind of come to the realization that wow, this is, you know, something that I'm good at. I could I could see myself enjoying this right, And you feel that sense of accomplishment. I think that nowadays something that really helps people in general when it comes to fitness, specifically is when they have somebody that's kind of cheering them on right. And they accomplished something. And even though it may not be huge per se, it's, you know, they have that feeling of Oh, I actually can do this right? And that's kind of motivation to push further. Yeah, and I love being that I love being in that role. Um, for other people, I think I see myself, you know, really, as a coach, um, more than a teacher if that makes sense, because I think I fiercely believe in other people's abilities to do things like, I think I can see it before they can. And like, I, I just remember coaching this one girl, my coach gymnastics in college and I was coaching this girl to do a back flip on the trampoline, and I could see that she could do it. But she didn't. She was. She was scared, and I just told her I was like, You know, I'm here, you can do it, just do it And she looked at me and she said, Really only, yes, you definitely can. And then she just went and did it easily. And I was like, See, like all you really need sometimes is someone else to believe in your ability. Um, and I think it's a really It's a really unique position to be ableto help somebody get over those hurdles. So that's that's actually a really good Segway into what I wanted to talk to you about next cause that whole seeing yourself as a coach rather than simply a teacher, there's There's a very big difference in my mind because a teacher I can sit in a classroom and they can spout out all this information. And then, you know, I'll take an exam later on. But a coach they're actually sitting there, right? Whether it's on the field or on the court. Where there, with you there coaching you. They're showing you how to do it, right? It's a very different, almost more of like a mentor, like a personal relationship. So, yeah, I want to ask, kind of to share with so that I understand where you're coming from and also to share with the audience is what future plans do you have more is like a fitness professional, right? I mean, you have your engineering career. I also imagine you're incidentally, but, uh, what kind of plans do you have for yourself within the fitness industry, you know, whether it's a coach or otherwise. Yeah, so So I've done coaching in the past, but, um, I'd really like to to be able to share, um more with more people. So I started. I started kind of a side company, Um, recently Ah, for coaching. I named it Acro Cafe. The reason being the acro just because that theme of movement that is like that I love and then cafe cause I am coffee is like a one of my favorite things in life. So Acro Cafe, Yes, so within that I want to provide, um, I want to start by providing physical fitness coaching because I think that's really the foundation of our overall wellness. I'd like to start with providing some simple challenges strength, training challenges and then expand that into a more holistic coaching program with nutrition as well. And really, just have it be something that's really meant to to improve your your life overall. So not just fitness and nutrition, but also, you know, a place to share the best life practices like Here's what I'm Here's what I'm reading, You know, here's here's like my favorite recipe kind of thing. So, like a community, really, that's just trying to be their their best self. Not just physically, but emotionally and mentally, you know, in their careers. So I plan to start with just a simple like strength group challenge and and then I'll probably share and evoke on him balancing and then from there, you know, that's kind of the grand vision is to have a B holistic ah, holistic wellness community that's really empowering people to be their best Selves from the ground up rooted in physical fitness. Because I do think that's kind of the first component of, like, a healthy body, mind and soul. So, yeah, that's awesome. That's I like the name, too. So is that already website that you have set up then? Yeah, So it's brand new. So when people go on, it will likely be just the landing page now with just some information, but that's where it's going to live. Acro cafe dot com Um, and also I feel like it's kind of representative of that feeling of like when you're in a cafe, just the the bustle of people sharing ideas. And, um, that's that's That's the vision. My husband helped me come up with that name, and it's kind of stacks, so that's awesome. I really like it. I'm actually looking at it right now, is we're speaking, Ironically enough, the the templates that they have on here have to do with engineering. So that's that. Yeah, it's fresh. I think I've played with I know that you're, um you shared some really cool information with me when we ah, when we chatted about earlier. I have to say we listen to a lot of Gary V this week, um, on your recommendation. So I know you're in the online world, so I have, you know, I'm excited to get everything moving and and really just share some positive information and really in power. Yeah, and that's that's great. I want I want to ask a little bit more about where you're headed with that, but I would just as a reminder to everybody that Gary V is phenomenal, even just not related to business. But life in general, it's It's incredible, right? And I listen to probably four or five hours a week of his podcasts, and I'd highly recommend that. But, um, as faras your message right there where you're wanting to really give more of a holistic wellness community, a place to share best life practices, right? It's more of a overall solution, right, whether it could be stress reduction or how to integrate fitness with your life or, you know, balancing all these things that you have to do as you know, an adult as people are coming from. You know, these younger, less need to be responsible age and more of a I've got things to take care of now, and I've got a child, Right. So as you set that up, that's I'd love to kind of watch that and be a part of that growing right and just see how that happens. Because I really like what you're sharing here. And I feel like you definitely have a lot to offer through that. And the name is just phenomenal, right? Because even even just having it be, you know, cafe kind of makes it seem war of, like, a homely like community where people gonna relate. Yeah, that's that's idea. Yeah. I'd love Thio. Yeah, if we can keep in touch because I could not believe just that we were both engineers with, um, you know, fitness as this, you know, side passion. I suppose so. I think we have a lot in common in, and I really kind of loved everything you've shared with me so far. So we create to keep in contact. Yeah, that would be awesome. And we'll go. We'll go a little longer to, um not not only like you, because I also want to talk a little bit too. Where? So you've got your coaching right that you're wanting to do. Obviously, you are getting ready for your competition here. And you have a coach yourself. You know, having said that, everyone should have a coach even if you're a coach. So if people want to reach out to you right now, are you mainly available through whether it's instagram, uh, email through your website? How do you How do you want people? Um, it's you can definitely, you know, message me on instagram My handles. Eliana, Um, I think my emails also on there. So you can d m me or shoot me an email. Perfect. And I'll put those in the notes to It's a metal. I have a long name, and it used to be longer. Believe it or not, Yeah, you're you're fine. But then you did say you go by Ellie, right? So people are Yeah. L a first? Yep. A little bit easier, But I'll put those in the show notes too, so people can see those now, The e book you mentioned right about hand balancing. That's something that really caught my attention. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's just something I need to put out into the world. I actually have started writing in the past, but I think it's it's just one. I think almost everyone I meet like Oh, could you teach me do a handstand like, Yeah, I mean, e can I can? Yeah, if you do, you have Ah, Do you have an hour? Like anytime I I love to teach it. I think that will be one of the first things that I have on my website. So if you wanna learn about him balancing that will be that will be out there. So I I like I will actually be someone who consumes that material is that's not something I've ever really considered. But I always remember going to like the Renaissance Festival and seeing people do you know these different things. And it was always just cool. I thought it was a fun thing to do. And I've always wanted Thio. I think everyone Yeah, I mean everyone, it's it's pretty accessible, to be honest, and I think it's just a fun skill toe toe toe learn. So, yeah, that'd be really cool. Is there anything else that you kind of wanna say is ah, last message to everyone, you know, whether it's something you haven't touched on or just something that you want to really just kind of instill in, You know, the fitness community of what you would say to everyone who's listening. Yeah, I thought about this a little bit. And, you know, at first I was gonna I was gonna say a message like, You know how important physical fitness is and how it's the foundation of I think I said this earlier. Your your mental and emotional health, Um, your minds and your and your soul. But I think people who are in the physical fitness community already they really already know that. So I think what I would say to people who are passionate about fitness um, it's just a really simple statement is yes, you can, because I think you know, the sky's the limit. And if there's some crazy goal, you have to be on American Ninja Warrior to run a marathon. Whatever it is like, Yes, you definitely can. There's no reason that you're not able to do anything you set your mind to, so that would be my simple statement. Yes, you can. That's perfect. Probably going to consider that as part of the title. I don't know. I've still got a name this episode because there's so much good stuff here. But that's great. So the sky's the limit, right? You can I? I think that's something that I can definitely apply more in my life. So, yeah, next time I need to overcome a little challenging obstacle. I'll just think back to this spot. Yeah, yes, you know I can. And I hope that's what everyone does, right. And my whole purpose of really doing this show is to try to get things like this out there so that people can really feel more of part of a community, right? They get to know you as a person, right? And then you share your message. So I think that's that's perfect. So that's great. And I appreciate your time to This has been Really, This has been really enjoyable for me. I think you know those kind of random us even kind of crossing virtual path. So I've really enjoyed it. I just want to congratulate you on starting your podcasts. I listen to podcasts like, way too much constantly. So I was really excited to do This is the first, my first cloud cast. I listened to many, but my first time being part of one. So this has been really exciting, and I've really enjoyed getting to know you, so it's very cool. Good luck in your future podcast endeavors. I hope it. I hope it gets really big and reaches a lot of people because I think you have a really positive message. Thank you. I really do appreciate that. We'll make sure to touch base, maybe do a follow up episode. Ah, and you know, after your competition, couple months down the road or something. Yeah. Maybe you could come out here and in the hearts of Arizona. We could do a live I have on my bucket list is, uh, to go back and see the Grand Canyon. So that would be great. Let me Very cool. Well, great. Thanks. Thanks for coming on. Come back next time. So thank you. Thanks. Thanks for listening to this episode of the John Barker Fitness podcast with Eliana Linnehan. I had such an amazing time getting to know her and sharing her story. I highly recommend following her on Instagram at Eliana. Now open up your podcast player or head over to iTunes and lever of you for the show. Your honest feedback is a huge help for my future episodes. Make sure your subscribed and check in every week for a new episode. Thanks again.